Резюме: | First, it's "moot" not "mute."
Second, my point is not to question whether 83% of "Orthodox" Jews vote for Trump. It may be true. My point is that this poll is worthless propaganda, like much of Orthodox media. It's worthless because there are ways to conduct a political poll that give it statistical validity. This was not done here.
Third... where do you get your facts from?
"FACT #1 – the majority of Orthodox Jews overwhelmingly vote Republican and especially in this election. The exact figures don’t matter. That has a margin of error, so the point is mute."
- *moot. And the majority of Orthodox Jews live in states where Trump is losing so bad there are no recent polls. He's down, what, 30 in New York and New Jersey? Because of the electoral college your votes are worthless. You're a tiny minority of a minority. This poll is like cheering that 83% of voters in Toombs County, Georgia support Trump. No one is shocked and no one cares. Though within your little fiefdoms you control local affairs. Regarding the statistical point, see my comments above.
FACT #2 – Obama’s policies in regards to Israel (and in turn the Jewish people) was one of the worst in modern history. Biden was part of that and unless you can prove otherwise, it doesn’t appear that Biden publicly denounced any of Obama’s anti-Israeli policies. He’s an accomplice.
- What policies specifically? How were Pres. Obama's policies different from Pres. Bush's? Or Reagan's? I was here in Israel in 2000 and 2001 when buses and pizzerias were blowing up. I remember Bush urging "restraint" and negotiation with the people who were killing our brothers and sisters. And I'm old enough to remember 1991 when SCUD missiles were falling all over Israel and Poppy Bush would not let Israel respond. It was before my time, but I read about Pres. Nixon turning the guns of the US 6th Fleet on the Israeli tanks in the Sinai demanding that Israel withdraw from Suez. I was also here, in Israel, in 2014 when Hamas rockets were being shot at us, but, B'H we had the Iron Dome that Pres. Obama paid for. And regardless of political stripe, those of us in the bomb shelters thanked G-d for that shield that saved thousands of Israeli (Jewish) lives. And let's not forget Pres. Obama signing into law the largest foreign aid package in US history, for Israel. Also giving Israel the F-35 bomber (that Trump is handing to the Arabs now). When Israel went into Gaza and Lebanon, Pres. Obama gave Israel enough latitude to do what it had to do in subduing the terrorists before joining the rest of the UN in telling the parties to simmer down. Do you even know what a "friend of Israel" is? It's not someone who kisses Netanyahu's tuches for the sake of it. Pres. Obama's policy on "settlements" was exactly the same as every president since 1967, following UN Resolution 242 (that Israel wrote). Go read Abba Eban. Netanyahu poisoned the well with the US, cozying up to the Evangelical Christians. He made Israel a wedge issue in the US Congress when it never was before. The joint nuclear accords with Iran, signed by six of the most powerful nations in the world, held Iran in check. Even Trump's State Department said that Iran was complying with the conditions. Netanyahu said in 2012 that Iran was months from having a nuclear weapon. It's 2020, there's no weapon. Trump has endangered millions of Israelis by unilaterally withdrawing the most powerful nation from the Accord, taking the teeth out of whatever penalties Iran would face if they stop complying and giving Iran an "out" to say that they're no longer bound by the restrictions. So please, let's stop with the racist bull that Obama was somehow bad for Israel or the Jews. Biden has been working with Israel since the time of Golda Meir. He is an unquestioned friend of Israel, who received standing ovations at AIPAC for years. When left-wing elements of the Democratic Party wanted to water down that support in their platform, Biden not only denied them, he made the language in support of Israel stronger. Biden has been coming to Israel since the 1970s. He's known every prime minister personally, and Netanyahu going back to when he was the manager of a furniture factory in Haifa (I think it's Haifa, may have been Jerusalem). Trump didn't set foot in Israel until 2017 (and his motorcade went passed my apartment). His only connection to Jews was telling everyone how he likes the short guys with yarmulkas to do his taxes.
FACT #3 – Biden’s mental alertness is in question. Just recently his latest gaffe is that he’s running for Senator. His honesty is also in question due to his multiple flip-flopping, lies, and corruption (for example: in regards to his son Hunter). Also, the claim that he’s a nice guy isn’t true. There are at least half a dozen examples where he insults voters to their faces on video. Biden IS NOT a nice guy!
- There is no question about Biden's alertness. None. You look at doctored videos and photos and think you can diagnose a person. Trump is 4 years younger than Biden. Trump is the oldest president in US history. While Biden may have gaffes (he's always had them, they're not new with age), Trump has a problem with saying the quiet parts out loud. Have you been listening to Trump in his Fox interviews? The hosts can't get him off the phone fast enough his incoherent rambling is so bad. And Hunter... dear G-d. Do you know anything about Hunter Biden? You buy the fiction without doing any research. Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma because he was an expert in corporate law and governance, a graduate of Yale Law School, and a partner and one of the largest firms in Washington, DC. Hunter Biden was the American lawyer for Burisma before he was on the board. The board knew the company was too shaky to do business with the US so it hired several American lawyers and businessmen to come and help then make their corporation more palatable for American business standards. I think that's a good thing. VP Biden, under direction for the US Senate, including Sen. Ron Johnson, and the entire freakin' western world, told the Ukrainian gov't to fire the corrupt attorney general BECAUSE he was NOT investigating companies like Burisma. Was Hunter paid a salary of $50,000 a month for his work on the board of directors. Yeah. So? A man can't make a living? Do you begrudge Ivanka making $80,000,000 last year doing G-d knows what? Trump is $421 million in debt to who-knows and you're worried about a couple of million dollars earned by someone never in government more than 5 years ago? Seriously? And everyone, especially the dozens of Republicans who lined up behind Biden, agree that Biden is a nice guy. Even if you disagree with his politics, he was always a nice guy. I thought Pres. Bush had absolutely terrible policies. But he was a nice guy.
FACT #4 – Kamala Harris has flip-flopped on several issues, lied on several occasions, and is a radical left winger.
- Flip-flopped about what specifically? How is she a radical leftist that put too many people in jail and was too harsh on criminals? Pick one. Is this like Pres. Obama was a radical Muslim fundamentalist atheist socialist corporatist? Sen. Harris is among the most moderate Democrats in the field. She would not go full Bernie on socialized medicine. She has repeatedly condemned the violence that arose during the protests. She supported the same immigration policies as Pres. Bush. It's like... Joe Biden has a 47 year record as a moderate, and sometimes corporatist. But Trump says he's a radical communist and all of the sudden it's like 47 years never happened. Same thing with Sen. Harris. She has a voting record. She has made speeches and given interviews and written things. We can read it. And we can see that she is far from a leftist. Bernie is a leftist. AOC is a leftist. Kamala Harris is no leftist. Many Democrats wish she was more radical.
FACT #5 – ALL the Gedolim advise to vote for Trump (as well as pray for his welfare).
- Any Gadol in the US that tells you to vote for any candidate should have the non-profit status of his shul or yeshiva revoked, and he should personally be made to pay all of the back taxes he owes for pretending to hold out his religious institution as a non-profit, when it's really a front for a political organization. In the United States, we don't follow the dictates of religious figures when it comes to voting. Would it be acceptable for VP Biden to say he's voting a certain way because the Pope told him to? Gedolim tell us how to live as Jews, and how to apply the Torah in our lives. They give mussar and moral guidance. I go to my Rav with questions of basar v'chalav, shalom bayis, and tefillah. But I don't come to him for advice on tax policy or international trade relations. If you think ANY Gadol is OK with a thrice-married man who cheated on all of his wives, the most recent cheating on his wife who is 30+ years younger than him and a super-model, to get it on with a porn star, who he paid $130,000 to be quiet about it... then we SERIOUSLY need to reconsider our Gedolim.
FACT #6 – The Torah REQUIRES us to follow the Gedolim.
- Not in secular political matters, it doesn't. And what happens when Gedolim disagree, as happens in Israel. Four Gedolim tell Israelis that they have to vote for four different candidates. They are Daas Torah, not infallible popes. The Gedolim told Am Yisrael to close their shuls, daven at home, wear masks and socially distance. And look on the streets of Boro Park. Look at the comments on this very website thumbing their noses at the Gedolim. Do we follow the Gedolim so long as it doesn't conflict with Trump?
FACT #7 – Anyone who votes for Biden negates ALL of the FACTS listed here.
- Nothing you said is a fact. So there is nothing to negate. Everything you said is easily refuted with the least bit of knowledge and research beyond the four walls of your media bubble. |